This job market is insane right now.

Now, with all of these layoffs... employers have the upper hand, and it's super competitive to land the job.

I work full time as a senior manager (L7) at Amazon. I've passed one the hardest interview that Amazon has to be a part of the executive team.

I started coaching on the side and really fell in love with it. I've helped a ton of people land their dream job!

If you need a career coach or help with prepping for your next interview. DM me or comment!

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Had the partner in charge of the tax group I was previously in at a B4 firm email me encouraging me to apply for an opening with them (basically same role I was in before, but at a SM level).

The catch is, I was part of their COVID RIF layoffs in summer 2020, and don’t think I’ll forget that anytime soon. Do I just respond that I’m not interested, or do I politely make it clear I have zero interest in ever returning to the firm?

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Just got promoted to SM. I worked my ass off for this and am very proud. At the same time, my daily life is exactly the same - my role won’t change and I can’t celebrate because of COVID. Also, I feel guilty because I know so many people who have been laid off during this time. Any advice on how to enjoy this accomplishment and feel the excitement during this time?

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Was laid off by EY few weeks back, had 60 Days to find an employer and get them to apply H1B for me. Subtracting the h1b app time, roughly had 5 wks to land an offer in this economy. Landed a consulting offer and an offer from a small Bay Area Data firm for a TechCloud Product Manager (choosing this) I was able to exit consulting in 5 weeks, something I was trying for over 1.5 years. What worked? Going away from the FAANG mindset, look at sm/mid sized firms and being open!

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Just started as an analyst and I have no idea what I’m doing. Anxious all the time that I’m just a fraud. Only me and an SM on a project and I just worry I’m going to screw everything up and get fired.

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Anyone have any experience working at Capgemini? Looking to understand pros/cons, of the organization, career paths (SM and above), pay, etc. Recently laid off from a large Consulting Firm as a SM. Is Cap's SM level comparable?

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Hey friends, I was laid off (due to COVID) from Accenture a month ago as an analyst. I had a pretty good network of SM, MD and managers that I talked to frequently before. However once I was laid off, I got depressed and haven’t reached out to any of them. I feel horrible but I’m trying to push myself out of my depression and make some positive changes. My fear is that at this point, I’m just a number and that they don’t care. It’s causing me anxiety and I’m telling myself it’s too late now.

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Say you work at Accenture and are doing OK (haven't been laid off yet and have projects lined up). Also let's say that you have good skills in cloud infrastructure, which is plenty busy right now.

What would motivate you to accept a job offer at a tiny consulting firm (less than 300 people)?

Would a good raise and a promotion to Senior Manager be enough?

There are many risks involved with going to a tiny firm. What would it take for you make the jump and overcome concerns?

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Was put on PIP coz of last year's util%.
Currently having intermin above expectations in PIP. PIP POC says BPOC(SM I haven't worked with) fired on him for giving a good feedback and asked to set unrealistic expectations w/o - clarity in requirements, supporting docs(tho they have it) and feedback.
I have recorded the calls with PIP POC & coach telling that they can't go against BPOC and give a good feedback despite I meeting all the expectations.
Should I show the rcrding to MD/HR?

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Something’s been weighing on my mind. I messed up in a steering committee & tripped infront of the Sr. Client Stakeholders. I made a few other mistakes and was rolled off by my manager (SM) b/c I sucked and it was a higher burn engagement he needed a stronger BA. Now I find out he might’ve been laid off and I can’t help but to think it was my fault. We never really talked after this engagement but I feel like it’s my clumsiness that him fired and it makes me feel guilty and give a me anxiety.

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Laid off SM fish from Tech Strat..in open waters now..to get hunted.

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My recommender got laid off from the firm. What do I say for her description in the application portal? “Ex Senior Manager”? “Ex EY”??

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How much is too much reaching out? Some context: I’m on the bench and I spoke to my SM about my availability on a Monday. They say they will find me some work. But I don’t hear from him at all. When do I reach out and how often should I follow up until he actually gives me what I need. The layoffs here at Accenture has me stressing over WBS codes so much.

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How much is too much reaching out? Some context: I’m on the bench and I spoke to my SM about my availability on a Monday. They say they will find me some work. But I don’t hear from him at all. When do I reach out and how often should I follow up until he actually gives me what I need. The layoffs here at Accenture has me stressing over WBS codes so much.

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Fellow Fishes - I am seeking referral in Atlassian.. got laid off last week (SM, 15YOE) looking next gig actively. Thank You 🙏🏼

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I am 30 and just got promoted to Senior manager. I think I am doing well but I feel I am driven more by pessimism, imposter syndrome, and fear of getting fired as opposed to a positive mindset and the desire to thrive in my career. I feel like I am suffering from some sort of a mental issue but wanted to throw it out here and get some advice to deal with this from the fishbowl fam as opposed to going to therapy. Thanks in advance for your responses!

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Dallas tax layoffs - 9 in BTS (4 SM, 2 mgr, 3 staff). Int and SALT no layoffs yet but expecting EOW.

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Nobody has emailed me since last Thursday. Am I fired but just don’t know it? Escalation email asking for work to do to SM and Partner haven’t been responded to, nobody should be on PTO as far as the calendar says

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Dad got laid off. Drinking got worse. Attempted assault on sis and mom. Had to put up in hotel. No clue on next steps (legal and personal). Project is complete shit show and SM is not getting it. Idk man...

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When the SM is dropping terms like “job security” every other sentence when pitching my extension on this project

(Yes I’m grateful to even be staffed. Yes I know I can be laid off. This is a joke)

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Is it appropriate to talk with your M and SM about your concern over layoffs? I want to talk to them about wanting to increase my workload and scope.

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Looking at a potential exit to Deloitte at Senior Manager level. Should I be concerned about the prospect of layoffs if we hit full on recession since I’ll be coming in new?

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SM here - if my work visa is not renewed, would I be eligible for severance?

Current non compete has 3 months of severance included

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Is up or out a real thing at DELOITTE? Is there like a general mark for each level for how long you can stay at that level before having to be promoted or laid off? More curious for the M and SM level

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Can a Senior Manager who otherwise has a good reputation, get fired for bullying? If not, will this person still make it to partner? There seems to be a lack of transparency in firms around this

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I just got laid off as an SC at Deloitte. I'm going to go work for a startup and when it gets acquired by Deloitte in 2 years I'll be a partner and fire the SM that got rid of me. Justice!

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If I go back to my previous big 4 firm from D will people think it’s because of the layoffs? My former SM reached out and said I’m welcome back anytime....

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Serious question: should I do anything in response to a SM trying his damnedest to get me fired without cause?

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When is the right time to leave a firm?
Firm isn't doing well with recent layoffs, leadership turnover, meh comp.

On the other hand I have excellent support and mentorship from M/SM I aligned........

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Current M at big 4. Oppty to move to a Director role(SM equiv) at a smaller firm with large layoffs 2 years ago but rebounding. 10% base bump, higher bonus target , more resp. Stay or go?

Found out a SM derailed my promotion this year. I'm on my way out to a better job & SM just got fired for being toxic. They want me to stay because of that. Should I reconsider? #profitsfirst

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I’m not waiting on the next season of Game of Thrones anymore! My project fills in for all that drama! 1 client stakeholder fired, 1 SM fired, 2 put on probation and they are taking about next phase🤣

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Came in to find out the pmo got fired just before holidays . The other manager tells me not to trust the senior manager , who actually was the one to staff me . Should I tell the senior manager ?

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It feels so good when your best friend is your senior manager and you build a case against a less senior manager then he is fired. Sucks but feels so good.

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Laid off today, would appreciate any advice for next steps for a senior manager

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Has anyone gotten laid off from one big4 and gone to another big4 and stayed there for several years to manager, senior manager position?

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My SM keeps joking about getting fired. Do you think that there is any validity to it?

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Heard about possible SM and MD layoffs today?

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Just heard that they may be a round of analyst layoffs in the west due to not enough projects and too many analysts being on the bench for too long. Source SM from the Midwest

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Does anyone think it’s weird that my firm is bending over backwards to try to keep a first year staff from leaving the firm after she was rated a 2 this year. But now she’s trying to leave and they keep trying to push her to stay saying she can be a partner in 8-9 years and laying it all out in detail. The issue is they laid off other staff (all but her) so maybe that’s it? Find it very odd.

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Anyone else out there feel like they’re both 1. working harder and for longer hours than ever but also 2. about to be laid off regardless, given the looming economic constraint.

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When you get laid off but still addicted to fishbowl 🙈

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Let the layoff season and games begin! Just got axed from a freelance gig along with 1/3 the full time creative department. Onward and upward!

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Jr AD’s- I’m looking to pay someone to help polish one of my projects. Need to work on it a bit more and then mock it up. Just got fired so I gotta revamp. $50 sound alright?

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Another one of my friends was laid off today :/ On the plus side, their company is giving them full pay & health benefits for four months & letting them keep any equipment they had. (100% not an ad agency.) I’m so bummed for them, but honestly I’m secretly low key jealous and wish I could just take a sabbatical from my agency job with that sort of severance package. I’m grateful for my job during this time, but this industry is burning me out. I can’t remember the last time I was happy.

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Are investment banking analysts getting laid off?

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If you accept a salary reduction in these times in good faith, and then are laid off and your severance pay is based not on your original salary but this new one, then your company knew this in advance and may well have violated labor laws. Call a lawyer. They will not charge you if they do not recoup your money.

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Can we try to be a bit less hyperbolic and check our facts when we’re talking about who got fired
vs laid off?

Fired: You unforgivably fucked up.
Laid off: We can’t monetarily afford to keep you.

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Here’s some shit: I’m staff level (career change, so a few years older than most staff). My 19 yo stepchild got laid off temporarily from their skilled trade job and is able to draw unemployment. They still live with their mom and I provide their healthcare as the stepmom married to their father. Stepchild just got first unemployment check and is making 2x their normal pay. Making more than me (!) while I continue to provide their health insurance. What. the. actual. fuck.

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Told a partner I am pregnant and was asked what I'm going to do after the baby....ummm work? Am I already fired?

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How did your agency handle layoffs? All-agency meeting before they started? After they ended? Both?

Kinda sorta trying to predict if I’m losing my job tomorrow.

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People on here seem to post about having been laid off whether they were fired or laid off. I pass 0 judgment, but does anyone else feel like there’s not a single person who comes on here and says he/she was fired. I would completely understand this language if this forum were not anonymous, but what’s with this, considering we’re all anonymous?

I know some actually were laid off, but for the others, are people just delusional or somehow embarrassed even though anonymous?

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For those who have gotten hired during the pandemic, was there anything you negotiated during the hiring process that helped you feel more secure in case of any layoffs that occurs after you’re hired?

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Anyone have any idea when the hiring freeze might end within AWS ProServ? I’m currently at Amazon and have a TS clearance, PMP & CSM. I come from a Big4 consulting firm with a background in Enterprise Performance. I’ll be honest and say I’m not feeling very safe in my current role with the ongoing layoffs. Instead of leaving, I’d love to go back to my “consulting roots” and join the ProServ team. I’m taking my AWS Certified Cloud Practitioner exam next weekend. Hoping this freeze is lifted soon.

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Any recommendations of finding a new job? Was laid off and am having difficulty as a senior

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Consumer spending is way down. Ad agencies are having layoffs. Are we the canary in the coal mine for a larger nationwide trend? Should I be buying gold or just take off my tinfoil hat?

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As bad as being laid off is, one of my biggest fears about someday possibly reaching a leadership role in an agency is the reality having to let people go. It’s never really appropriate to complain about since the person let go is the much more sympathetic figure, but does anyone who’s been on the other side of that conversation feel like talking about the stress and difficulty of being the one dropping the ax?

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When we tell other agencies/employers you were laid off (which is the truth) do you recruiters and employers believe us? Or do you think we’re lying and that we were actually fired?

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Kpmg is looking for people with Cloud security experience (2+ YOE), if you’re interested let me know

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Currently expecting two offers soon. HR for one is asking if I am expecting any other offers as they work to finalize the details. Do I tell them or not? Maybe just that I am talking with other agencies? Curious why HR always asks this? Thanks! Is it a trick question?

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Currently in finance transformation consulting and aiming for M7 / INSEAD to pivot IB / PE (buy-side). 1) is it impossible? 2) will be 31 by the time I finish b-school -is that too old to get into it?

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Anyone here successfully transitioned to a cyber security role from IT Audit? If so, how did yo do it?

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Hi All,
How much can Deloitte India pay me, considering below factors:
Skillset: SAP ABAP
YOE: 9+
CCTC: 26 lpa (including 5 lpa variables)

Completed 3 rounds now including managerial.

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Any one attending Kellogg successfully receive more aid after being admitted and during their time at the school? I want to keep pushing for what I think I deserve 😁, tactfully of-course

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Does your therapist ever actually have any revelations as to why you are dealing with your issues? All the ones I’ve been to just want to put me on meds. #beentheredonethatneveragain

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Any DFW folks here? Need to freshen up my meeting routine.

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Hi fishes, can anyone guide me through Morgan Stanley recruitment process?? I have a test coming up for SDET QA Role!! Please help.

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Drop your classroom management ideas here. For my school it sure is nice to have a principal who supports a no phone policy.

How much would you need in your trade/retirement accounts to feel comfortable enough to retire in your 20s? 30s? 40s?

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ZS salary range 4 YOE at AC level (Strategy team) and Capgemini Workforce Transformation range for Sr. Consultant level? Also non MBA grad

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I’ve been with the same company for about 7 and a half years (since finishing grad school). When I landed this job, it was through a personal connection and it’s been a while since I’ve dipped my toes into the job market. I’m feeling really ready for a change and I’ve made a new resume etc but I’m thinking about making a portfolio. I don’t want my employer to know I’m looking for a new job -so do I need a portfolio? what’s the best format? What do I include?

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I’ve been having a hard time networking at the Firm and having it pay off. Can someone offer advice about how they reach out to partners and APs? I’m 0+5 associate

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Is it Friday yet? 😔

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Hi everyone 👋

Last year, I applied for a developer role at BARCLAYS and subsequently cleared the Coding & Interview rounds but something happened & the position got cancelled, so I joined a startup instead which I had kept as a backup. But now, the latter is reducing its workforce and has given me a month to find a new job.

Also, I can see a few developer openings at BARCLAYS currently, so please let me know if any of you can refer me for this role as it would greatly help me.

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Recently I asked about my wife’s gold coins. Have a follow up. If wanting to “cash in” gold coins, where do you go? I have some clients that also got them and they aren’t as sentimental as we are lol

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How much do Senior. Client associates make a yr. Specifically with Financial advisors and places like wells fargo.

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